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Poster: GersonK Date: Apr 21, 2004 10:06am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: smear tactics have no place in these forums

It goes against my better judgment to get dragged into this, but I'll try to bridge the communications gap here and kill the joke by explaining it.

A Visit to Santa is in the archive -
http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=prelinger&collectionid=01859

It is, by most useful standards, not a very good movie. Furthermore, it is distinclty unsophisticated.

Yet, out of all the many ways on how to choose films what films are appropriate for a prmarily college aged audience, Houghton College appealed to a publication called "Sophisticated Films Movie Guide" from the makers of this unsophisticated and poorly put together film.

Even had nobody treated it as an authority, the mere fact that the same orginaztion that came up with this film would also come up with a book with such a title would be humorous. The same laughter would probably occur had the author been Ed Wood.

One of the respondants reacted to the freedom of expression/censorship angle of the policy instead. Deal.

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Poster: cashel Date: Apr 24, 2004 5:06pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: smear tactics have no place in these forums

I would suggest to GersonK that I he read my newly added review of A Visit To Santa. I ask him whether or not he is going to revise his damning association of this film to Houghton College?I have read his very lengthy comments on that film . I agree that it is a trashy film, but what has that to do with a fine institution like the college?

This post was modified by jack2 on 2004-04-25 00:02:48

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Poster: Steve Nordby Date: Apr 25, 2004 10:17am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: smear tactics have no place in these forums

jack2: "a fine institution like the college"

I am confused about your meaning. What does "fine" mean in the context you have put it? A "fine" judge of film quality? A "fine" institution of academic instruction? A fine what?

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Poster: cashel Date: Apr 25, 2004 10:44am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: smear tactics have no place in these forums

OK You possess a superior knowledge of the English Language and so I am unable to comment on your reply

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Poster: GersonK Date: Apr 25, 2004 8:00am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: smear tactics have no place in these forums

It's not really my association to revise. Houghton College has associated themselves with Clem Williams by using his guide. Not much I can do about that.

If I were trying to make an in-depth analyses of either Mr. Williams' ouvre (on-topic here) or Houghton College's film policy (off-topic here), I would want more evident than A Visit to Santa.

But all I'm analyzing (over analyzing, actually) is whether or not my only point of reference* on Mr. Williams "talent" makes him being treated as a film authority funny. And it still is.


*And after various google searches, I found only two hints that he made other films, and nobody who saw the need to comment on the quality thereof.

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Poster: uniQ Date: Apr 24, 2004 1:56pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: smear tactics have no place in these forums

It IS pretty damning...for Clem Williams.

The association IS there, let's face it:

A Visit to Santa ~12 reviews all state somehow that it sucks - By Clem Williams Films.
Houghton Univ. - Has listed a reference to a publication by Clem Williams Films.

There's a direct association.

-uniQ